The stock controller is not unbalanced or excessively heavy with the Alientech Pro mounted onto it. However, you already have the SC2, so might as well use it. It's a real brick!
V1 or V2 extended range antennas?
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Curious about those alienware adaptors as well. How well they attach, how far they stick out, what antenna options there are for them.
I like the QMA attachements as it'd allow easyier setup when not using the fold out antenna type.
At some point you cross the line between "fits in case" and "portable" on the way to a stronger signal.
I mean if your only requirement is strong signal the there's ways to get there without too much fuss, but you will sacrifice portability and simplicity of setup.
Nice to have the option with Autel as DJI gives you no easy modification path with their controllers other than teardown and re-wire/connect.
I like the QMA attachements as it'd allow easyier setup when not using the fold out antenna type.
At some point you cross the line between "fits in case" and "portable" on the way to a stronger signal.
I mean if your only requirement is strong signal the there's ways to get there without too much fuss, but you will sacrifice portability and simplicity of setup.
Nice to have the option with Autel as DJI gives you no easy modification path with their controllers other than teardown and re-wire/connect.
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A brick indeed @ 2.5 pounds! Nice screen as well and I like the sticks a bit more for precision. Placement of C1/C2 buttons is a bit far, wheels are on the same plane as forefingers for thumbing (not sure on pinchers) but wheels are too low/close to sticks, ending up around the last knuckle vs fingertips. Ahh well, it's nice, but like all things takes time to adjust and get good for multi-input moves. I still wish they would cache video, sync photos and use all that processing power in the drone/controller to stich photos after the fact when your in the album. Also a 3 second delay on pause button? The RTH can have all day to initiate- but pause is most useful as an emergency stop/braking button. 3 seconds is an eternity when a collision is impending.
I wouldn't have minded a takeoff/land button either. Yet... it's still impressive. Now some FW fixes would be soooo nice!
Have a look for yourself. They snap on and off easily, and fold almost flat.
ALIENTECH PRO 2.4G Extended Range Antenna
ALIENTECH PRO 2.4G signal booster enhances your wireless drone signal strength, lengthens the transmission distance and stabilizes signal reception. I FAST SHIPPING
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"They" What are you talking about? The metal SMA to QMA adaptors? They SNAP on? They look like they screw onto the SMA studs on the controller, which by the way is not a smart controller in the link you provided.Have a look for yourself. They snap on and off easily, and fold almost flat.
ALIENTECH PRO 2.4G Extended Range Antenna
ALIENTECH PRO 2.4G signal booster enhances your wireless drone signal strength, lengthens the transmission distance and stabilizes signal reception. I FAST SHIPPING
"Lay almost flat" Again, what? The pictures at the end of the link show a big brick attached to a V1 controller. What lays flat where? Nothing in those pictures lay flat.
If you mean that the QMA connectos connect together and pull appart easily then yes, QMA connectors do that.
Other than that, there's no portability or storage comparison between the standard folding antennas on a smart controller or a V1/2 standard controller.
Also, the amplified antenna is very directional, battery powered and gigantic. You'll need additinal case space and charging to use it.
Also we're talking about a $10 upgrade vs a $400 upgrade.
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I bought the Amazon ones - came yesterday evening- Just like earlier in the thread, I just did an outer diameter reduction, taking off plastic on SMA Male attachment points. Its a pain Autel decided to use a non standard diameter. If tge intent was controling what customers are attaching I would understand, but disagree. But for Autel to say they can be replaced with 3rd Party Devices? That's a stretch.
The Amazon ones from Bingfu (love these brand names) are a good starting point to test in my environment.
I also put a grouping of 3 zip ties on the anodized "handle" to keep the metal clips from destroying the finish on it. Not sure why Autel stopped using the handles with small metal loops on top as attachment points for the harness.
Ever get the feeling of a pioneer, forging new pathways into the future? Sounds very Lewis and Clark, right? If Lewis and Clark paid someone for the privilege of doing their testing for them.
Still deciding if I want to hang an Alientech Duo II on my V2 SC. For now, I am getting impressive range. My WiFi heavy urban/suburban area would yield about 2500 Meters on Standard Controller and I am seeing 3500-4000 meters on the V2 SC. 5.8 gets me out about 3000, where it will switch to 2.4. Switching improved over time, with no changes in my part. Weird, but I'll take it!
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Just ordered this attachment for my SC V1, Hoping this attachment solves my problem using the AlienTech Pro with my SC V1.
First time using the AlienTech Pro booster with the SC V1, experienced no increase with signal strength and actually was the same as stock antennas. Was using a series of cables to make the connections so maybe it had a weak link somewhere. This upgrade connector you mentioned, should eliminate any doubt of cable malfunction as it mounts directly between SC V1 controller and booster. However, With the Evo 2 stock Controller the AlienTech booster greatly increased signal strength tremendously.
May have it this Saturday or Monday the latest, hopefully see better results next time.
Thanks for sharing this neat attachment!
I hate to say it... but "Alien Tech" sounds to me a lot like "Snake Oil".
As a possibility for why it didn't work better... the Alien Tech unit requires battery power to work... Make sure it's charged, then turned on when you're testing. It's supposedly an "Active" "Powered" antenna with an amplifier that needs power to function. It's also very directional... so you'll need to be pointing in the direction of the drone for it to have benifit.
One other thing, that picture... what ARE those connectors? They look almost like QMA connectors as they are NOT SMA. Look closely at the SC body antenan connection points. What are those?I bought the Amazon ones - came yesterday evening- Just like earlier in the thread, I just did an outer diameter reduction, taking off plastic on SMA Male attachment points. Its a pain Autel decided to use a non standard diameter. If tge intent was controling what customers are attaching I would understand, but disagree. But for Autel to say they can be replaced with 3rd Party Devices? That's a stretch.
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The Amazon ones from Bingfu (love these brand names) are a good starting point to test in my environment.
I also put a grouping of 3 zip ties on the anodized "handle" to keep the metal clips from destroying the finish on it. Not sure why Autel stopped using the handles with small metal loops on top as attachment points for the harness.
Ever get the feeling of a pioneer, forging new pathways into the future? Sounds very Lewis and Clark, right? If Lewis and Clark paid someone for the privilege of doing their testing for them.
Still deciding if I want to hang an Alientech Duo II on my V2 SC. For now, I am getting impressive range. My WiFi heavy urban/suburban area would yield about 2500 Meters on Standard Controller and I am seeing 3500-4000 meters on the V2 SC. 5.8 gets me out about 3000, where it will switch to 2.4. Switching improved over time, with no changes in my part. Weird, but I'll take it!
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Haven’t seen these special connectors yet, just ordered a set this morning but they are designed for both Autel SC V1/V2 to work with AlienTech booster.
I agree, the name AlienTech does sound like a company with Weird snake oil gadgets. But truthfully, it does greatly increase reception when using on stock Evo 2 controller.
in my case using AlienTech with the SC V1, didn’t increase reception and only fared the same with stock setup. I’m hoping maybe had a poor connection with the cable attachments, hopefully these neat connectors work well.
I’ll share my results, Very soon once they arrive.
Cool...
I was referencing the picture here (Circled the connectors... they're not SMA, I think this is a render and not an actual product shot)
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What type of meter or equipment is used to measure signal strength? I know little about FCC licensing and control of airwaves in the US, and Part B other than the Part B that applies to most or all consumer transmitter/ receiver signals. All that blah blah about you must permit interferaeven if undesirable performance and must not interfere with others. That's on everything I've ever operated. I just wonder; If end users cannot cause interference, and must ACCEPT interference... who exactly is creating all the interference? Obviously commercial applications; manned aircraft, licensed radio stations, Homeland Security, military.
IS there a relatively affordable signal measurement device or meter? I mean the most basic signal meter in a given spectrum - including wifi that I wouldn't understand- I was looking for a simple way to average signal readings with differing antenna setups.
As much as the Alientech Antennas are capable of, I wonder if a passive dual band unit would be more reasonable upgrade at $139 (+ $49 for SC adapters) or is going the full Monty @469 + $69 from Covert Drones.
It's $188 vs $538 -not exactly a minor price bump. If the passive setup perhaps provides 50% additional range and the amplified setup does, perhaps 200% as claimed I guess it depends what your needs are. There is no LEGAL need to fly at extreme distances, in 99% of situations... I have to wonder how Directional the range is with the Amplified Unit as well.
My goal is simple: Give me solid control and video at approx. 5000 ft / 1 Mile / 1600 meters with no breakup of FPV, and fast response from the drone. I would EXPECT a well designed Passive Antenna to be capable. But interference...a
IS there a relatively affordable signal measurement device or meter? I mean the most basic signal meter in a given spectrum - including wifi that I wouldn't understand- I was looking for a simple way to average signal readings with differing antenna setups.
As much as the Alientech Antennas are capable of, I wonder if a passive dual band unit would be more reasonable upgrade at $139 (+ $49 for SC adapters) or is going the full Monty @469 + $69 from Covert Drones.
It's $188 vs $538 -not exactly a minor price bump. If the passive setup perhaps provides 50% additional range and the amplified setup does, perhaps 200% as claimed I guess it depends what your needs are. There is no LEGAL need to fly at extreme distances, in 99% of situations... I have to wonder how Directional the range is with the Amplified Unit as well.
My goal is simple: Give me solid control and video at approx. 5000 ft / 1 Mile / 1600 meters with no breakup of FPV, and fast response from the drone. I would EXPECT a well designed Passive Antenna to be capable. But interference...a
Looks promising. Please keep us posted on your results with these adapters, since they are specifically designed for the Autel SC, I would expect good results. Is the 2.4 Pro amplified or passive? I want to get the amplified dual band Duo II, but not unless it produces significant signal improvements. It's well over $500 with the adapters. My main worry is that it will have great range, but be unidirectional and need to be constantly pointed with some precision. Hopefully that's not true. Do the amplified Alientech sets have FCC approval? I assume they need it to sell here, then again I am learning all the time in this community things I assumed that were not good assumptions.
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Yes, I was specifically referring to the QMA connectors on a modified V1 standard controller. The connectors easily snap on and off, so you can store the Alientech Pro amplified antenna separately, which takes up no more space than the standard controller itself. The 2.4 Ghz Alientech Pro is half the size of the dual band one, which provides no benefit on any V1 controller, since there is no 5.8 Ghz support.
The directionality of the Alientech Pro is its strength, not a weakness. If you are interested in maximum range, you aren't looking for an omnidirectional antenna, since you never fly behind yourself. The beamwidth is roughly 55°, and using the compass in the Explorer app will allow you to always point the controller at the aircraft by keeping the line between you and it vertical.
Horizontal Beamwidth：2.4GHz 55°±5°
You get what you pay for.
The stock V1 range is a mile in my area. It sucks!
SC V1 was also only a mile, even with a different signal booster!
After getting the Alientech Pro setup on the standard V1 controller, the range is now over 4 miles! You be the judge whether a 300% increase is worth $400 on a $1,700 EVO 2 Pro. I wasted $1200 on the SC V1 solely for the advertised increased range to 8 miles, which was nonexistent! I returned it and spent $400 on a solution that quadrupled the range! Saved $800, and got what I needed. YMMV.
Your experience matches mine. The SC V1 range with external boosted antennas was just as bad as with its stock antennas, while the EVO 2 stock controller with the Alientech Pro was 4x greater. I did not have the Alientech Pro while I had the SC V1, but I used an external boosted setup with SMA connectors that I previously used on a DJI P4 that had a 4+ mile range vs. 1 mile with the stock antenna on a GL300c remote. Eager to see if you see any improvement on the SC V1. I didn't. The V1 stock controller with an iPad is 10x better, once you attach the Alientech Pro.
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My experience with running the AlienTech Pro with the SC V1, yes similar to your experience (no difference) in signal. No noticeable improvement, Nor less.
However, I am getting terrific improvement with SC V1 over stock controller in areas with interference and improvement on range. That’s the only area we have differences, very happy with the SC V1. Just wasn’t happy not experiencing an improvement using the AlienTech Pro booster with the SC V1, Maybe I had a weak cable connection and hopefully that special connector made for the Autel SC V1/V2 will change my first results, will definitely share how it does. Because I’ll be using the AlienTech Pro 2.4 model, My SC V1 transmission setting will be 2.4 band.
Couple of days ago, took my Mavic 2Pro out for a flight, using an iPad and haven’t flown Mavic 2 Pro In months maybe even close to a year. Hated using the iPad, the Evo 2 Pro spoiled me and now with Autel SC V1 boy it’s definitely a game changer.
Can’t see myself going back with an iPad again, sure ill probably continue using the Mavic 2 but it will never again be my main quad and I don’t really cared to purchase one for the DJI SmartController screen is too small. Evo 2 Pro coupled with the Autel SC V1 is my main quad, many questioned the price of the Autel SmartController when first rolled out and seriously its a steal.
Take care, enjoy the flights and looking forward to future post of yours.
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Wanted to comment on your SC V1 having same and poor performance using the booster setup versus stock antennas, Was very sorry to hear you not having good results with the SC V1, I know you mentioned it wasn’t an AlienTech model but another type amplified setup. Regardless, it probably wasn’t the amplified setup in your case maybe your area has a lot of inference.
Was happy to read you’re having great results with the AlienTech Pro with stock controller and using an iPad, at least you’re experiencing terrific results with this setup.
Enjoy G_G, This current setup is good enough.
Yes, the Alientech Pro with the modded stock V1 controller is now a decent backup for the M2P where GEO is an issue, which was the primary objective in the EVO 2 Pro purchase, in addition to the touted 40 minute fictional flight time, that sadly always starts out at 32 minutes, and sadly its 360° panos take 4 minutes each, instead of a mere 60 seconds on the M2P!
M2P is always my first choice. OcuSync 2.0 is still far better than the even the Alientech Pro on the EVO 2 Pro. The 5.8Ghz band is essential to OcuSync's success. I fly mostly at sunset, so the iPad is not a problem on either aircraft. If glare is a problem, I just find some shade. M3 with OcuSync 3+ is coming November 5th! True 46 minute flight time at 15mph and a real 15km stock range with a dual camera: wide angle on an MFT sensor, and a 3x optical telephoto on a 1/2” sensor! Happy, safe flying!
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