Thermal camera settings

[Ranchhand]

I am trying to use the thermal camera to detect Ferrel Hogs.
The contrast is so bright I can’t determine what is what.
How do I adjust the contrast to make the live animal stand out more ?

 

[jaja6009]

I am not there to see your problem but I can make some assumptions.

My guess is this is not a contrast problem, but a temperature problem.
I see you are in Texas. Most likely the hogs are the same or similar temperature as the background (trees, grass, ground).



Above is me on the beach. You cannot easily see me because I am the same or similar temperature as the sand since this is a sunny day and the sand is solar loaded.

If I thermal-tuned the image or used isotherms it might help a little bit, but at the end of the day, I am a very similar temperature as the environment I am in and thermal imaging will struggle to find me.

 

[CactusJackSlade]

Personally, if I want something to stand out, I use the Black white and RED palette. Also, I have found that early morning is best for better contrast, as the surrounding environment is still cold and not heated by the sun yet. Just after sunset is the most difficult. Oh, in case anyone was was wondering, this is the California International Marathon going by our house, as they do each year. Several thousand go by - it takes about an hour for all the runners to go by, and we are only 3 miles from the start line.

 

[pedals2paddles]

Agree. This is why thermal is most effective for most every task after sunset. Or at least after the sun is no longer shining on whatever things you're looking at.

 

[CactusJackSlade]

Agree. This is why thermal is most effective for most every task after sunset. Or at least after the sun is no longer shining on whatever things you're looking at.

Yes but even more so in the morning after everything has cooled off over the night. Quite a dramatic difference actually. Much, much better in the morning.

 

[jaja6009]

I had some more time to show some examples.

I tried to thermal tune the previous image I posted.

My body in the image is different temperatures, head = 74*, body/jacket = 61*

Neither of above is the hottest or coldest in the image.
If I tune the image by adjusting the span/range to 74* for my head also doesn't help since there are large areas in the image the same temperature range. So even if I set Isotherms to show just 74* it really doesn't help as the Red Isotherm would show on various other parts of the image.

Everyone here offered great advice on flying when you will have the best temperature deltas and this holds true in thermography.

I fly public safety for my real job and we do not always get to choose the time of day and have run into your hog problem every single time we fly in the daytime to include winter, as the sun still solar loads items in the winter.


Below thermal tuned image with span set to just the temperature of my head. Too many areas of the image are the same temperature.

 

[CactusJackSlade]

I'm assuming you have tried the other various color pallets?... and yes, once the sun warms things up it becomes a lot more difficult, regardless :-/

 

[jaja6009]

I'm assuming you have tried the other various color pallets?... and yes, once the sun warms things up it becomes a lot more difficult, regardless :-/

Color will not help.

Changing palettes will only have my head be the same color as the other areas in the image that are the same temperature.

The unaltered image actually shows me the best.

This image is an extreme to show what I think is happening for the OP. I do have many other thermal images in summer that show people better because of the various different backgrounds they are in.

Black Hot




Hot Iron

 

[ADOC]

I am trying to use the thermal camera to detect Ferrel Hogs.
The contrast is so bright I can’t determine what is what.
How do I adjust the contrast to make the live animal stand out more ?

Which Drone/Camera?
Thermal specs?
Show some examples.

 

[Stormpro]

Color will not help.

Changing palettes will only have my head be the same color as the other areas in the image that are the same temperature.

The unaltered image actually shows me the best.

This image is an extreme to show what I think is happening for the OP. I do have many other thermal images in summer that show people better because of the various different backgrounds they are in.

Black Hot
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Hot Iron


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I am new to the IR drone but have used the hand helds for a while and that has been my experience so far. Often I find myself turning off the IR and just using the zoom or wide camera on my Autel Max 4T. If I am searching areas around heavy foliage or the water and edge of the river with shades it works because there is a drop in temeratures there that help show the heat signiture of a warmer subject. Need those temperature differences!

 

[jaja6009]

I am new to the IR drone but have used the hand helds for a while and that has been my experience so far. Often I find myself turning off the IR and just using the zoom or wide camera on my Autel Max 4T. If I am searching areas around heavy foliage or the water and edge of the river with shades it works because there is a drop in temeratures there that help show the heat signiture of a warmer subject. Need those temperature differences!

In thermography it is referred to as Delta T or Temperature difference.

 

[MIA]

I have no problem picking out the Feral Hogs with my Evo 640T and the drone is quite far away here.

 

[MIA]

Here is a video I took Sunday in mixed mode.

MIX_1568633129.MP4

drive.google.com

 

[CactusJackSlade]

Here is a video I took Sunday in mixed mode.

MIX_1568633129.MP4

drive.google.com

Interesting, what were they running from?

 

[MIA]

Interesting, what were they running from?

They really don't spook from the drone ever. Hogs will run from it a mile off. I do wildlife management.

Maybe this guy?

IRX_1568633112.MP4

drive.google.com

 

[rmils123]

Hello,
I ordered few day's ago autel evo 2 dual v3 rugged bundle, thermal camera image not clear, pixelated, outside is cold ar Night, wildlife animals can't really see, what animal it is.
My cousin has 640t v2 Enterprise, but imageis much clearer any objects is highlighted, crisp, is there a defective sensor/camera for me?
Third image/last image is 640t dual v2 Enterprise.

 

[jaja6009]

I do not see any problem with your image.

The resolution is actually really good. You can see the deer's? neck and ears.

The first two images are taken at a lower altitude and show the ground with its different apparent temperature values better due to better resolution from being lower and possibly being the ground at at a higher temperature than the third picture.

The crsipness you are referring to is also possibly due to the ambient temperature in each image.
If it is cold outside then yes the animals will be very crisp since there is a large temperature delta (difference) and they will "pop" when compared to the cold ground.
If the ground is a closer temperature to the animals, then no they will no "pop" out.

What you need to do is compare apples to apples.

Have the two drones together and then take images of the same thing at the same time so that the surrounding parameters are equal.

I have the original Evo 2 Dual non-radiometric so I do not know if your newer 640T V3 has the ability to change the viewable temperatures with a slider. If you change this viewable temperature range (span) you will also start to change your termal image. Did you adjust the span/range?

 

[rmils123]

I do not see any problem with your image.

The resolution is actually really good. You can see the deer's? neck and ears.

The first two images are taken at a lower altitude and show the ground with its different apparent temperature values better due to better resolution from being lower and possibly being the ground at at a higher temperature than the third picture.

The crsipness you are referring to is also possibly due to the ambient temperature in each image.
If it is cold outside then yes the animals will be very crisp since there is a large temperature delta (difference) and they will "pop" when compared to the cold ground.
If the ground is a closer temperature to the animals, then no they will no "pop" out.

What you need to do is compare apples to apples.

Have the two drones together and then take images of the same thing at the same time so that the surrounding parameters are equal.

I have the original Evo 2 Dual non-radiometric so I do not know if your newer 640T V3 has the ability to change the viewable temperatures with a slider. If you change this viewable temperature range (span) you will also start to change your termal image. Did you adjust the span/range?

That slider? I can change on this dual camera mode ,not for full screen mode,
On fullscreen mode nothing's changed.

 

[jaja6009]

That slider? I can change on this dual camera mode ,not for full screen mode,
On fullscreen mode nothing's changed.

The slider in your picture is the transparency for the thermal and IR image.

 

[rmils123]

The slider in your picture is the transparency for the thermal and IR image.

Yeah, but image quality is definitely much better on 640t v2 Enterprise, maybe there is a different image/video processing rather than v3 non Enterprise version...?