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The cat is out of the bag in terms of DJI’s new Mavic 2 Enterprise model that they are officially announcing in just about seven hours (8am ET on Dec 15th). sUAS News posted the below article a short time ago introducing the new DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced.


This platform features a 640x512 30Hz thermal camera with a 16X zoom together with a 48MP 1/2” visual camera (32X digital zoom). The Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced can also be equipped with an RTK module.

In the morning once we are able to share additional info, the Advexure team will be further breaking down the differences between this new platform from DJI and the Autel EVO II Dual.

The Mavic 2 Enterprise Dual Advanced will begin shipping from Advexure in Q1 2021.
 
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The DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced is now released. We've already been receiving a lot of questions this morning on how we believe this new aircraft stacks up against the Autel EVO II Dual. At the time of this post, DJI has not yet released pricing on the new M2EA, so therefore we'll stick to comparing the feature sets with the below high level takeaways with a simple list of areas these two platforms where one platform excels over the other.

Autel EVO II Dual > DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced​

  • Interchangeable Payloads/Cameras – It appears that there will be no upgrade path forward for Mavic 2 Enterprise (Dual) owners to upgrade to the M2EA camera payload.
  • Made in the USA – This is incredibly important for Advexure's gov't customers, public safety, or any private entity/company that contracts with state and federal entities as a service provider. While the EVO II Dual is not on the Blue UAS list, it has checked the box for many customer requirements with it's FTC certification for Made in the USA (more info here)
  • No Geofencing – Autel's system does not impose geofencing and restricted flight areas, which allows you as the certified operator to determine compliancy with regulations and fly where and when you want without unlocks from the manufacturer.
  • Flight Time – We expect that once we get a better understanding from real-world experience with the M2EA, we anticipate the EVO II Dual to be slight superior in terms of its flight time.
  • FLIR Thermal Camera – Autel partnered with FLIR, the most well-known name in the thermal imaging infrared camera space to create the EVO II Dual by using FLIR's Boson core in an OEM partnership. The sUAS industry knows, loves and relies on FLIR (a US company) for IR needs.

DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced > Autel EVO II Dual​

  • Add-On Modules – Public safety, search and rescue, inspection, and many other applications have come to love the add-on modules for the DJI M2E series (except the Beacon). While the EVO II Dual does come with it's FoxFury Lighting System, most users love the integration of these add-on modules that can be remotely controlled from the DJI Pilot app. It would certainly be likely to see DJI further leverage their add-on module capability with other modules in the near future.
  • RTK Capability – DJI introduced the RTK add-on module which brings the ability to achieve centimeter accuracy through the use of an NTRIP network on the M2EA. This is incredibly important for inspection users and particularly the utility/energy field.
  • Cross Fleet Interoperability – The DJI M2EA uses DJI's Smart Controller which is cross compatible across the Mavic 2 Enterprise, Mavic 2, Phantom 4 Pro V2.0, and Mavic Air 2 series. For operators and users that operate multiple DJI aircraft, the cross compatibility aspect is certainly beneficial.
  • Price – We said we'd stick to the feature sets in this comparison list but must make a note about price (even though pricing is not yet available on the M2EA at the time of this post). We expect the M2EA to price under the EVO II Dual. UPDATE 1/26/21: The Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced will be $6,240 and the RTK Module will be purchased separately (pricing TBA).

More information on both of these platforms can be found on the Advexure website. What are your thoughts between the Autel EVO II Dual and DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced? We want to hear your takeaways!

DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced.JPG
 
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Now that DJI have dropped their partnership with FLIR this drone will probably be quite cheap (in comparison).

But would people still want it, with an inferior thermal sensor? 🤔
 

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Now that DJI have dropped their partnership with FLIR this drone will probably be quite cheap (in comparison).

But would people still want it, with an inferior thermal sensor? 🤔
I don't know if a thermal sensor is inferior just because it isn't made by Flir. Flir may be a leader in the area, but Fluke, Seek, Bullard, ICI, MSA, 3M and others, all make "good" thermal imagers. In the fire service Flir does not dominate the thermal sensor realm although they are a major player. We have had Bullard thermal imagers that have lasted well over a decade and countless fires that are still in service. I've played around with a low cost Chinese 320 resolution thermal camera paired up against my Flir 320 and the only thing lacking was the menu system was confusing and there was no software for working in post. Made me almost regret spending $700 more for the big name product. Even with a less sensitive NETD rating the picture on the Chinese thermal was still very good for my use case.

I am with you on pricing, this could be well below the price of the Evo 2 Dual.

I can see your concern about DJI diving into a new area. BUT, if they engineer their new thermal sensor like they do their drones, I personally don't have a problem with it as out of the 3 DJI products that I fly often, they have for the most part been trouble free.
 

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I don't know if a thermal sensor is inferior just because it isn't made by Flir.

Sorry, I probably could have phrased that better.

It was an assumption based purely on the cost of the sensor, whereby you get what you pay for.

A sensor costing $1000 less cannot be expected to be as good 🤷‍♂️
 

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And what about dual controller ability, Autel has it, any idea on the M2EA?

Do you know if Pilot will be enhanced, more like GS Pro with maybe the cylinder type orbit with up and down capability?

If this is priced at $6-7000, the Blue UAS may have their hands full even for government customers. Even with all of the warnings here in NJ police and fire are using "Chinese" drones. A police department here just got a Matrice 300 RTK with all the goodies. My city does not have that kind of coin for drones, so we are about to purchase the Evo 2 Pro with the purchase of the Dual camera assembly next year, but we really need a price on this as this could change our order (Evo 2 Pro order is on hold at this moment). Any chance a firm price comes out quickly, as this is the time of year where all accounts get wrapped up and cleared, so this release came at the absolutely worst time and a decision needs to be made immediately.
 

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I don't know if a thermal sensor is inferior just because it isn't made by Flir. Flir may be a leader in the area, but Fluke, Seek, Bullard, ICI, MSA, 3M and others, all make "good" thermal imagers. In the fire service Flir does not dominate the thermal sensor realm although they are a major player. We have had Bullard thermal imagers that have lasted well over a decade and countless fires that are still in service. I've played around with a low cost Chinese 320 resolution thermal camera paired up against my Flir 320 and the only thing lacking was the menu system was confusing and there was no software for working in post. Made me almost regret spending $700 more for the big name product. Even with a less sensitive NETD rating the picture on the Chinese thermal was still very good for my use case.

I am with you on pricing, this could be well below the price of the Evo 2 Dual.

I can see your concern about DJI diving into a new area. BUT, if they engineer their new thermal sensor like they do their drones, I personally don't have a problem with it as out of the 3 DJI products that I fly often, they have for the most part been trouble free.
Thermal cameras are not new to DJI. The H20T is pretty good actually. According to rumors, the M2EA uses the same sensor as the H20T and same App capabilities, i.e. side by side. Let's not forget M2EA offers a radiometric sensor - and there's no such solution on the Autel.

Feature to Feature comparison: DJI comes out on top. As as stated, just because it's not FLIR, it doesn't make it inferior. Add to that, M2EA's 32x RGB zoom & 16x Thermal zoom - that's tough to beat.

Considering M2EA will be in the 6k range, the Evo 2 Dual's higher price will be tougher to justify - unless the lower their price to compete better.

Autel does hold it's own: longer battery life, superior customer service, no geofencing, "Made in USA", FLIR non radiometric sensor, upgradability - if these are important to somebody, they may see value in paying $4k more.
 

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Thermal cameras are not new to DJI. The H20T is pretty good actually. According to rumors, the M2EA uses the same sensor as the H20T and same App capabilities, i.e. side by side. Let's not forget M2EA offers a radiometric sensor - and there's no such solution on the Autel.

Feature to Feature comparison: DJI comes out on top. As as stated, just because it's not FLIR, it doesn't make it inferior. Add to that, M2EA's 32x RGB zoom & 16x Thermal zoom - that's tough to beat.

Considering M2EA will be in the 6k range, the Evo 2 Dual's higher price will be tougher to justify - unless the lower their price to compete better.

Autel does hold it's own: longer battery life, superior customer service, no geofencing, "Made in USA", FLIR non radiometric sensor, upgradability - if these are important to somebody, they may see value in paying $4k more.
Autel evo 2 dual with 640t gimbal is radiometric
 

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Yes, m2ea is not flir either, it is possibly the same sensor as the evo 2 with the 640t, they have practically the same specifications.
and according to the latest news, dji is banned from sale in the USA, they have been blacklisted.
 
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That's not true. DJI can sell in the US. US companies just can't sell US developed technology to DJI.

DJI develops their own tech. Very unlikely Autel is using the same sensor.
 
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it is difficult to know what sensor the mavic has, dji if it does not use flir does not specify it, in the case of autel, the 640t uses an Iray sensor.
 
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While DJI being on the "blacklist" should not affect sales in terms of you being able to buy the drone, I am worried about Pilot and Go on the various app stores. I am also worried about if this will in any way affect how DJI will implement Remote ID in the future as how I understand this "blacklist" it makes it so these companies cannot receive access to certain US technologies.
I don't know if Autel should be happy about this, because in my pure opinion, if they take down one Chinese company that rules the consumer/prosumer drone market, who is to say that if say Autel replaced DJI in sales market percentage that they would not be the next target.


Maybe we will find out more about who "makes" DJI's new thermal sensor, but they could just buy a core from someone and then modify the electronics and place it into your camera/gimbal assembly. With Flir you can buy cores and then integrate it into what you need. There is a whole section on an electronics forum about people doing so.
 

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autel is also a chinese company the only product they have "made in usa" is the evo 2 dual with the 640 camera
 
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Many Chinese electronics companies are on the black list... and I'd guess that won't remain over time... market need, economics, and businesses will probably change this in the future. In the meantime, it doesn’t have a major impact on Consumer or Enterprise sales.

The DJI M300 and H20T payload, and the other payloads offer a Superior platform for SAR, Govt and multiple shops... it's pricey too! But no where near the price if produced by other companies. The H20T has received high praise from specialists in the thermal & SAR fields, I'd consider that a sign of not being inferior.

The M2EA non-Flir 640 Full Radiometric has many benefits for specific tasks... and at lower cost, to a Buyer, considered a plus!

Add in the RGB camera specs, ease of add-on modules, RTK, Heated Batteries, Stable RC transmission, belly light (very handy at times), proven platform, and all the 3rd party apps, for a price possibly well below EVO2 Dual.

EVO2 Dual has a new threat in the Air and Pocket$.
 

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I fully agree, the mavic 2 dual advanced will go on the market for € 6500, that is more than € 2000 less than the evo 2 dual and above it brings many more accessories, the rtk module is sold separately for € 500 more. Autel is going to have to do something about its pricing when it launches the autel evo 2 enterprise by the end of Q1 2021.
 

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autel is also a chinese company the only product they have "made in usa" is the evo 2 dual with the 640 camera
That was my whole point. Autel should worry if they "fill in the gap" for any DJI business losses (If any) and "are too successful" are they next?
 
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I fully agree, the mavic 2 dual advanced will go on the market for € 6500, that is more than € 2000 less than the evo 2 dual and above it brings many more accessories, the rtk module is sold separately for € 500 more.
Has it landed across the pond? The €6500 sounds interesting, is that pretty solid or speculation? If that followed similar in USA, that equates to $7970 USD which is a bit higher than I'd guess.... I was thinking more $7000.

Still $7900 is a good price!
Another perk if that price is accurate for DJI; I tend to notice a small or 1 man shop tends to have a magic number on considering new investments. That falls somewhere $5000-8000 USD range. If popular with Others, that scale goes up with confidence. When it hits $10-12000, more hesitation to pull trigger. Controlling market has been DJI practice and they also aren't quick to bring out new product if not threatened by competition.

I tend agree with platform price. The RTK @ €500 would be surprising... would like to see it!

The DJI RTK option has typically been a very pricy kit. The M600, M210 jumped several thousands to include the RTK. An M600pro RTK nice used still pulls $3500-5000.

I wouldn't think they include RTK circuitry in Hull, that's add cost.

Looking forward to seeing the Price when it hits the shelves.
 

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That was my whole point. Autel should worry if they "fill in the gap" for any DJI business losses (If any) and "are too successful" are they next?
Has it landed across the pond? The €6500 sounds interesting, is that pretty solid or speculation? If that followed similar in USA, that equates to $7970 USD which is a bit higher than I'd guess.... I was thinking more $7000.

Still $7900 is a good price!
Another perk if that price is accurate for DJI; I tend to notice a small or 1 man shop tends to have a magic number on considering new investments. That falls somewhere $5000-8000 USD range. If popular with Others, that scale goes up with confidence. When it hits $10-12000, more hesitation to pull trigger. Controlling market has been DJI practice and they also aren't quick to bring out new product if not threatened by competition.

I tend agree with platform price. The RTK @ €500 would be surprising... would like to see it!

The DJI RTK option has typically been a very pricy kit. The M600, M210 jumped several thousands to include the RTK. An M600pro RTK nice used still pulls $3500-5000.

I wouldn't think they include RTK circuitry in Hull, that's add cost.

Looking forward to seeing the Price when it hits the shelves.
The price has been provided to me by an official distributor, but all that glitters is not gold, the rtk module of the mavic dual advanced is only for precise flight, it would not work for photogrammetry, it does not have time sync, the rtk module of the evo 2 dual enterprise, it will have time sync.
 

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