10 Bit supported resolutions

rcee · Sep 6, 2020

I wonder if there is a list / guide what modes are supporting 10 bit color. Anyone ?

Cicero24 · Sep 6, 2020

I was told by Autel 4k30.

Andrzej · Sep 6, 2020

I checked it some time ago on firmware 2.3.0. It depends not only on resolution and frame rate but also on color profile selected. Summary in table below (25/30 fps and 50/60 fps provide the same bit depth). Mind that HDR is available in auto exposure only so if you set exposure to manual then color profile must be set to log.

	NONE	NONE+HDR	LOG	LOG+HDR
6K/25	8	8	8	8
4K/25	8	10	10	10
4K/50	8	8	8	8

So to supplement Cicero's reply: 4k30 and LOG color profile.

Cicero24 · Sep 6, 2020

Yes. LOG 4k30.

rcee · Sep 6, 2020

Andrzej said:
Mind that HDR is available in auto exposure only so if you set exposure to manual then color profile must be set to log.

Great info, i had it working before but unable to get it going in the latest FW. I tested HDR this night and like you said....works only with auto exposure. The autoexposure part was overseen by me

problem is, nowere the display shows if u record in 10bit or not.....you only will find out afterwards when editing....

rcee · Sep 8, 2020

More testing & update:

	NONE	NONE+HDR*	LOG	LOG+HDR*
6K25**	8	na	8	na
6K30**	8	8	8	8
4K60	8	8	8	8
4K50	8	8	8	8
4K30	8	10	10	10
4K25	8	10	10	10
4K24	8	10	10	10
2.7K120**	8	na	8	na
2.7K60	8	10	10	10
2.7K50	8	10	10	10
2.7K30	8	10	10	10
2.7K25	8	10	10	10
2.7K24	8	10	10	10

*HDR is available in auto exposure only so if you set exposure to manual then color profile must be set to log.

**HDR Not available

Greg · Sep 9, 2020

rcee said:
Great info, i had it working before but unable to get it going in the latest FW. I tested HDR this night and like you said....works only with auto exposure. The autoexposure part was overseen by me
problem is, nowere the display shows if u record in 10bit or not.....you only will find out afterwards when editing....

I agree, I've been shooting for weeks thinking its 10bit H265 in 6K 30fps and its full of banding in the sky if you add any saturation. so now I guess its a 4K 30fps LOG 10bit drone then

sisterpixel · Sep 12, 2020

What about photo's? What settings need to be in place to get 10 bit images?

Rubik3x · Sep 12, 2020

rcee said:
Update:

NONE NONE+HDR* LOG LOG+HDR*
6K25** 8 8 8 8
6K30** 8 8 8 8
4K50 8 8 8 8
4K30 8 10 10 10
4K25 8 10 10 10

*HDR is available in auto exposure only so if you set exposure to manual then color profile must be set to log.

**HDR Not available in 6K mode

I think you also have to be recording in H.265 to get 10-bit video.

Andrzej · Sep 13, 2020

sisterpixel said:
What about photo's? What settings need to be in place to get 10 bit images?

For photos use highest resolution in raw format (DNG), it provides 16 bits, at least EXIF says so:
Bits Per Sample: 16
Color profile (NONE/LOG) doesn't matter in this case.
JPG will be always 8 bit. In post production you can decide to export developed DNG to JPG (8 bit, which is usually sufficient after post-processing: with little bit effort this JPG will better than JPG produced in-drone) or if you want to keep every bit and export to TIFF 16 bit (picture size on disk ~140MB).

Andrzej · Sep 13, 2020

Rubik3x said:
I think you also have to be recording in H.265 to get 10-bit video.

Yes, indeed. That is correct.

H.264:
Format/Info: Advanced Video Codec
Frame rate: 30.000 FPS
Bit depth: 8 bits

H.265
Format/Info: High Efficiency Video Coding
Frame rate: 30.000 FPS
Bit depth: 10 bits

rcee · Sep 13, 2020

More testing & update:

CODEC H265 !

	NONE	NONE+HDR*	LOG	LOG+HDR*
6K25**	8	na	8	na
6K30**	8	na	8	na
4K60	8	8	8	8
4K50	8	8	8	8
4K30	8	10	10	10
4K25	8	10	10	10
4K24	8	10	10	10
2.7K120**	8	na	8	na
2.7K60	8	10	10	10
2.7K50	8	10	10	10
2.7K30	8	10	10	10
2.7K25	8	10	10	10
2.7K24	8	10	10	10
1080P120**	8	na	8	na
1080P60	8	10	10	10
1080P50	8	10	10	10
1080P30	8	10	10	10
1080P25	8	10	10	10
1080P24	8	10	10	10

*HDR is available in auto exposure only so if you set exposure to manual then color profile must be set to log.

**HDR Not available

Ai.Imaging · Sep 18, 2020

hi everyone , i am having a hard time matching my images in video , from my editing to then rendering to social platforms , i'm not getting the same quality images i know its my mistake , so i was wondering is there a video that could teach this , what settings should i shoot and do i need to render in the exact same , so if im recording in 2.7k at 30fps then if the social platform only allows less such as 1080 .. iv been struggling with this one lol

Rubik3x · Sep 18, 2020

Ai.Imaging said:
hi everyone , i am having a hard time matching my images in video , from my editing to then rendering to social platforms , i'm not getting the same quality images i know its my mistake , so i was wondering is there a video that could teach this , what settings should i shoot and do i need to render in the exact same , so if im recording in 2.7k at 30fps then if the social platform only allows less such as 1080 .. iv been struggling with this one lol

I'll take a swing at this question. I'm sure others will chime in.
You are correct to shoot at a higher resolution than you plan to use for production. The higher bit-rate will gather more image data and produce a better video, even at a lower resolution output. Your video editor will largely determine how good the result will look. I've had good luck with Cyberlink PowerDirector and DaVinci Resolve. If you are posting to YouTube, make sure you are producing an .mp4 file. The biggest problems come when you change the frame rate. Make sure you shoot at the same frame rate you plan for your production. No more struggling, please!

Jagerbomb52 · Sep 18, 2020

Try uploading to Vimeo: Watch, upload, and share HD and 4K videos with no ads and see if it improves

Ai.Imaging · Sep 18, 2020

Rubik3x said:
I'll take a swing at this question. I'm sure others will chime in.
You are correct to shoot at a higher resolution than you plan to use for production. The higher bit-rate will gather more image data and produce a better video, even at a lower resolution output. Your video editor will largely determine how good the result will look. I've had good luck with Cyberlink PowerDirector and DaVinci Resolve. If you are posting to YouTube, make sure you are producing an .mp4 file. The biggest problems come when you change the frame rate. Make sure you shoot at the same frame rate you plan for your production. No more struggling, please!

Thanks i tried something new a few days ago , and i noticed shooting at any 4k or 6k always in Raw and mp4 it looks saturated im almost certain my fps are matching up. i am heading out tomorrow and i will try again its horrible im comparing my videos with others and something is not clicking and im sure its a simple setting. thanks again

Rubik3x · Sep 19, 2020

Ai.Imaging said:
Thanks i tried something new a few days ago , and i noticed shooting at any 4k or 6k always in Raw and mp4 it looks saturated im almost certain my fps are matching up. i am heading out tomorrow and i will try again its horrible im comparing my videos with others and something is not clicking and im sure its a simple setting. thanks again

I assume that shooting video in "Raw", you mean LOG. Normally, a video shot in LOG will be very un-saturated, with weak colors. This is said to record better color gradation. The colors are then boosted in your editor. In the camera's Style setting, you can adjust the amount of Sharpness, Contrast and Saturation (in that order). If I'm shooting in LOG, I set the Style to Manual, -2, +3, +3 to minimize the correction required in post. If you are shooting 2.7K/30 or 4K/30 in H.265, this should produce a 10-bit video file that requires only a slight saturation boast. Also, White Balance on a sunny day usually looks best at 5600K. I hope this helps.