New rules on the horizon?

Jagerbomb52 · Feb 23, 2018

Foundation Urges ICAO, Governments to Accelerate Regulation, Oversight of Recreational Drones - Flight Safety Foundation

The 192 member countries of ICAO are bound by treaty to comply with ICAO standards.
They have a lot of say in literally every standard outside of the FAA's.
They literally are the UN. I can guarantee If anything comes of this, this is going to upset a lot of FPV racers and AMA advocates. This will be interesting to watch develop.

bjtap · Feb 23, 2018

According to a podcast (DroneU) there are about 8 million drones out there. The FCC has handed out 2 fines and 3 are pending.There has been 1 confirmed case of drone vs airplane contact. 6 out of 8,000,000 hardly seems to justify "“Based on a number of recent incidents, we are increasingly concerned that uncertificated, untrained recreational drone operators are flying small UAS near airports and manned aircraft. … ".
Having given the statistics, I suspect many flyers do break the FCC rules and have not been caught or had the FCC give a warning. (I do not recall if the podcast stated the amount of warnings issued with no further action).

QuadSquad · Feb 23, 2018

Just another case of definitely have better things to do, but, can't stop meddling with what ain't broke.

Busdriver · Feb 23, 2018

bjtap said:
According to a podcast (DroneU) there are about 8 million drones out there. The FCC has handed out 2 fines and 3 are pending.There has been 1 confirmed case of drone vs airplane contact. 6 out of 8,000,000 hardly seems to justify "“Based on a number of recent incidents, we are increasingly concerned that uncertificated, untrained recreational drone operators are flying small UAS near airports and manned aircraft. … ".
Having given the statistics, I suspect many flyers do break the FCC rules and have not been caught or had the FCC give a warning. (I do not recall if the podcast stated the amount of warnings issued with no further action).

FCC?? I'm confused. Also, there are more citations than that issued in No Calif alone. Are you talking about apples or bananas here?

QuadSquad · Feb 24, 2018

Think FCC must have been a typo for FAA. Gonna bet bjtap is a ham, and his smartphone just stuck that in there, cuz it remembers FCC from a amateur radio forum. How's my detective work tap?

HiloHawaiian · Feb 24, 2018

It’s funny, sad, infuriating that no such FAA action is seriously considered to deal with the #1 cause of aerial noise pollution on earth. Tourist helicopters. My wife is more afraid of them crashing into our house than a drone hitting anything flying causing a crash — or peering in the bedroom.
If drones stay at 400’ and below, more than 5 miles outside ATC, what’s the issue? No helicopter or aircraft will ever fly that low (legally) outside ATC take-off/landing vectors.

Drones can be annoying, if flown irresponsibly, but they don’t rattle your windows. Largely, essentially unregulated helicopters can be deadly...

Jagerbomb52 · May 7, 2018

HiloHawaiian said:
It’s funny, sad, infuriating that no such FAA action is seriously considered to deal with the #1 cause of aerial noise pollution on earth. Tourist helicopters. My wife is more afraid of them crashing into our house than a drone hitting anything flying causing a crash — or peering in the bedroom.
If drones stay at 400’ and below, more than 5 miles outside ATC, what’s the issue? No helicopter or aircraft will ever fly that low (legally) outside ATC take-off/landing vectors.

Drones can be annoying, if flown irresponsibly, but they don’t rattle your windows. Largely, essentially unregulated helicopters can be deadly...

Well it seems we have a new company that started up in the bigger city about 25 miles away. Its a helicopter service

Not just one but two Bell 412C BLR's sat over the falls making all kinds of racket for around 15-20 minutes. And very low.
Wiskair Helicopters
Now I know why you complain about them and want to move.

HiloHawaiian · May 7, 2018

Agustine said:
Well it seems we have a new company that started up in the bigger city about 25 miles away. Its a helicopter service
Not just one but two Bell 412C BLR's sat over the falls making all kinds of racket for around 15-20 minutes. And very low.
Wiskair Helicopters
Now I know why you complain about them and want to move.

OMG I literally feel your pain. When you start to get 20-30-40 a day, you’ll start screaming at the sky like a madman

If they make money, others will follow. Bell’s are really loud, the loudest ones in Hawaii, the MD/Boeing 500 a close 2nd. The worst part is I bet you live in a relatively quiet area. If so, the difference can be even more pronounced. Read this explanation why it is one of the worst forms of noise pollution on the planet:
Helicopter Noise