REALITY CAPTURE 1.2 THREAD

[jmason702]

I downloaded the pay-per-use version of this software, I am very surprised by how detailed and the dynamics of all that you can do. I have been looking at this for prolly 3 to 4 hours total and I can say there is a lot to it!!!

The great thing is you can produce your map model change or do anything to check the accuracy and so on, you only pay when you export something. Therefore it costs nothing to play with it and learn it. no trials...
Secondly, I would have to say so far that there is a lot to figure out if you're into all the advanced tuning of the software, or you can push a button and it will do it all for you. But with the RTK drones, there is so much tweaking you can do, my head hurts after another 2 hours of looking at it.
Bonus--- it seems pretty cheap to export whatever you want. like a 1000 photo mission with ortho, DTMs, model, etc.. is like 20$, but you pay for nothing until you are done and happy with it.
From what I read, a gaming whale bought them out, added very advanced features, and completely changed the pricing system.

I want to start this thread for everyone interested in using this software (it's free to process and just advanced as Metashape or even more) You don't pay anything until you export and it's not very much. WAY better than paying 3500$ a year.
All users can post here on how they are setting up the software for an RTK drone or even a non-RTK drone, it appears to have a pretty high learning curve for advanced users.

I can tell this is going to be BIG!

Please share all experiences with the software here good or bad, so all that want to learn it can and we all can learn from each other.

Thanks

 

[vr-pilot]

I downloaded the pay-per-use version of this software, I am very surprised by how detailed and the dynamics of all that you can do. I have been looking at this for prolly 3 to 4 hours total and I can say there is a lot to it!!!

The great thing is you can produce your map model change or do anything to check the accuracy and so on, you only pay when you export something. Therefore it costs nothing to play with it and learn it. no trials...
Secondly, I would have to say so far that there is a lot to figure out if you're into all the advanced tuning of the software, or you can push a button and it will do it all for you. But with the RTK drones, there is so much tweaking you can do, my head hurts after another 2 hours of looking at it.
Bonus--- it seems pretty cheap to export whatever you want. like a 1000 photo mission with ortho, DTMs, model, etc.. is like 20$, but you pay for nothing until you are done and happy with it.
From what I read, a gaming whale bought them out, added very advanced features, and completely changed the pricing system.

I want to start this thread for everyone interested in using this software (it's free to process and just advanced as Metashape or even more) You don't pay anything until you export and it's not very much. WAY better than paying 3500$ a year.
All users can post here on how they are setting up the software for an RTK drone or even a non-RTK drone, it appears to have a pretty high learning curve for advanced users.

I can tell this is going to be BIG!

Please share all experiences with the software here good or bad, so all that want to learn it can and we all can learn from each other.

Thanks

Hi,

just installing REALITY CAPTURE 1.2 after testing myself PIX4Dcloud (after 1 one year or so) for several hours today of using your EVO2 RTK data from the DD forum and my EVO2 Enterprise RTK data from an Italian vendor.
Thank you for bringing that all up!

 

[jmason702]

Hi,

just installing REALITY CAPTURE 1.2 after testing myself PIX4Dcloud (after 1 one year or so) for several hours today of using your EVO2 RTK data from the DD forum and my EVO2 Enterprise RTK data from an Italian vendor.
Thank you for bringing that all up!

how did my data turn out? Feel free to post it

 

[jmason702]

Reality Capture 3D model, using its own processing method ( automatic way )

 

[jmason702]

Oh... is was $2.85 to export any data from this mission anytime I want

 

[vr-pilot]

how did my data turn out? Feel free to post it

It turned out to be "too" perfect (100 % +/- 2 cm Y/Y, 100% +/- 3 cm Z) like discussed in the DD forum. ;-)
I am currently only using a trial within P4DCloud so I think it would be a little unfair to post screenshots of the reports. But here is some copy/paste data:
- Average Ground Sampling Distance (GSD) 0.95 cm / 0.37 in
- Camera Optimization 0.9% relative difference between initial and optimized internal camera parameters
- Absolute camera position and orientation uncertainties
X [m] Y [m] Z [m] Omega [degree] Phi [degree] Kappa [degree]
Mean 0.002 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.003 0.001
Sigma 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
- Mean Reprojection Error [pixels] 0.209
- Internal Camera Parameters
vvv Focal Length, Principal Point x, Principal Point y, R1, R2, R3, T1, T2
Initial Values 4221.410 [pixel] 10.131 [mm], 2744.005 [pixel] 6.586 [mm], 1848.880 [pixel] 4.437 [mm], 0.072, -0.231, 0.273, 0.001, 0.001
Optimized Values 4183.184 [pixel] 10.040 [mm], 2743.524 [pixel] 6.584 [mm], 1856.651 [pixel] 4.456 [mm], 0.071, -0.193, 0.220, 0.002, 0.001
Uncertainties (Sigma) 1.902 [pixel] 0.005 [mm], 0.076 [pixel] 0.000 [mm], 0.119 [pixel] 0.000 [mm], 0.000, 0.001, 0.001, 0.000, 0.000
- Relative camera position and orientation uncertainties
vvv X [m], Y [m], Z [m], Omega [degree], Phi [degree], Kappa [degree]
Mean 0.002, 0.002, 0.002, 0.006, 0.008, 0.001
Sigma 0.000, 0.000, 0.001, 0.003, 0.003, 0.000
- Absolute Geolocation Variance
Min Error [m], Max Error [m], Geolocation Error X [%], Geolocation Error Y [%], Geolocation Error Z [%]
-, -0.03, 0.00, 0.00, 5.00
-0.03, -0.03, 0.00, 0.00, 3.33
-0.03, -0.02, 0.00, 0.00, 8.33
-0.02, -0.01, 7.50, 1.67, 10.00
-0.01, -0.01, 25.00, 19.17, 10.00
-0.01, 0.00, 20.00, 26.67, 12.50
0.00, 0.01, 14.17, 31.67, 10.83
0.01, 0.01, 25.00, 19.17, 11.67
0.01, 0.02, 6.67, 0.83, 12.50
0.02, 0.03, 1.67, 0.83, 8.33
0.03, 0.03, 0.00, 0.00, 1.67
0.03, -, 0.00, 0.00, 5.83
- Relative Geolocation Variance
Relative Geolocation Error, Images X [%], Images Y [%], Images Z [%]
[-1.00, 1.00], 80.00, 89.17, 68.33
[-2.00, 2.00], 100.00, 100.00, 95.00
[-3.00, 3.00], 100.00, 100.00, 100.00
Mean of Geolocation Accuracy [m]: 0.011250, 0.011250, 0.019778
Sigma of Geolocation Accuracy [m]: 0.000466, 0.000466, 0.000495

 

[jmason702]

CRAZY GOOD!

 

[jaja6009]

Another forum member turned me onto Reality Capture a while ago. I have found its 3D Mesh to be excellent. In fact the few models I have made for clients have all been from Reality Capture as each time it beat out Pix4D in my use cases.

 

[Dave Pitman]

I installed it about a year ago and it would crash on the same machine that runs Metashape without issue. I haven't tried it since.

I have heard great things about it with regard to 3D models. Not so much with regards to accurate topography. It will be interesting to see what you come up with. What is your priority, a pretty model or accurate topography? Nothing wrong with wanting both if it works.

WAY better than paying 3500$ a year.

Not sure if this is a reference to Metashape, but if it is, MS Pro is a LIFETIME perpetual lic. for that price. Not yearly. WAAY cheaper than Pix or DD in the long run. But certainly not "cheap".

 

[jaja6009]

Pricing
Pix4D - $5,000 Perpetual License for Deskptop Mapper - You can also add Cloud Processing Blocks starting at $750 which allows you to process on the Cloud as well as easily share your outputs. Also you must pay a 10% fee to get any new versions after the first year.
Reality Capture/Capturing Reality - $3750 Perpetual, also offer Pay-As-You-Go which is very reasonable
Agi MetaShape - $3,500 Perpetual for the Professional Version, Just added Cloud Processing and Storage for Project Sharing - Prices vary
Drone Deploy - $99 to $299 to break out your real wallet subscriptions, but they do constantly add to their platform and the ease of use can make a cartographer out of anyone.

 

[jmason702]

DD is about 3600 a year for the business plan. I really like DD but tiered of the 3600 a year ****.

Since a year ago Reality Capture has had two updates and those updates seem to be all about drones and mapping, they have orthos now and contour lines, DTMs ALL kinds of stuff. Not sure how accurate it is yet, still trying to figure out the system to dial it in for RTK. What I really like is I have been playing with it for 2 days and has cost me nothing!
It seems you are able to dive deep into the software and do about anything you want...

 

[jmason702]

I installed it about a year ago and it would crash on the same machine that runs Metashape without issue. I haven't tried it since.

I have heard great things about it with regard to 3D models. Not so much with regards to accurate topography. It will be interesting to see what you come up with. What is your priority, a pretty model or accurate topography? Nothing wrong with wanting both if it works.



Not sure if this is a reference to Metashape, but if it is, MS Pro is a LIFETIME perpetual lic. for that price. Not yearly. WAAY cheaper than Pix or DD in the long run. But certainly not "cheap".

I am after both, accurate and pretty, the human eye can't help but love things that look great!!

 

[jmason702]

The BIG question, in the alignment settings this is what I got it set to, but not sure what some things are... what would your setting be for RTK drone??

 

[Dave Pitman]

Those seem like reasonable weightings. If you were precisely set up on a known point with published accuracy you could probably reduce the GCP values accordingly.

 

[Dave Pitman]

Pix4D - $5,000 Perpetual License for Deskptop Mapper

I have not checked pricing in awhile. It's good that market pressure is bringing Pix down a bit. I think they were at like $8k ish a couple of years ago.

 

[jmason702]

with the above settings, NO GCPs or CPs here is the Reality Capture Report. If I am reading it correctly it is giving us the same results as DD and PIX Cloud. the error of "0" across the board
This is the same map as we have been testing EVO RTK Manual

any input on this report feel free to share it

 

[Dave Pitman]

It seems to be reporting that any error is below what it detects. That doesn't mean that there isn't error. It just can't quantify it for one reason or another.

Just keep in mind that if you are providing data to a surveyor (for example), they would give 0% weight to this report and 100% weight to the position differences (if any) to reference checkpoints.

 

[jmason702]

It seems to be reporting that any error is below what it detects. That doesn't mean that there isn't error. It just can't quantify it for one reason or another.

Just keep in mind that if you are providing data to a surveyor (for example), they would give 0% weight to this report and 100% weight to the position differences (if any) to reference checkpoints.

So basically Metashape is the only one that is giving us any real feedback and PIX Desk Top... DD, PIX Cloud, and Reality are not seeing any errors. Sound correct?

 

[Dave Pitman]

That's what it looks like. After looking at all of the tie points and adjusting the camera positions accordingly, the apps, other than MS, are saying they no longer see any error in camera positions. We know that there has to be some error, but it is below their threshold to measure. Not quite below MS's threshold. In any cases, it's very good. We just know there is actually error. And, that Checkpoint error is king.

 

[jmason702]

flying a 40-acre mission at 250 AGL right now, a guy on the DD forum said your maps are too small to get good data
39 satellite fix on drone, this should be good